So the injectable winny hurt a lot but great for fat loss and getting rid of water. They do make joints hurt so when i feel extra stress on joints, npp dose starts. strength is truly amazing and i experienced some personal bests. it increased a lot of stamina. the total time i spent in gym increased from 60-75 mins to -2 hours. warm up, stretching, treadmill, workout and then last 10 to 15 mins some punching so almost all things covered in one workout. The test had its signs of high libido and well being. It took sometime to completely experience like 5 or 6 weeks.